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		<title>By: Simon Kewin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Kewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

Fair points and thanks for the further discussion on the meanings of &quot;dam&quot;. I was, of course, keeping things simple for the purposes of making a point. And I was deliberately not getting into any religious discussion but, again, simplifying in order to illustrate my meaning.</description>
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<p>Fair points and thanks for the further discussion on the meanings of &#8220;dam&#8221;. I was, of course, keeping things simple for the purposes of making a point. And I was deliberately not getting into any religious discussion but, again, simplifying in order to illustrate my meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um - depending on your faith, sinners might be redeemed, sometimes.

And some feel that living this life on earth, is the living damnation we weren&#039;t saved from.

Then again, there are those that feel sin is a made-up concept, and an anythingarian might well ignore the entire notion, as not being of any particular interest.

But I take your meaning, that damned is often intermingled with other curse words - curse in the Christian sense of impugning the state of another&#039;s soul.  Curse in a more general sense, of course, is an emphatically felt desire for ill or harm to come to another.

Could an expanded title for this piece be, &quot;Damned if you do, and dammed if you don&#039;t?&quot; - another, somewhat extended parody of the expression equating to &quot;between a rock and a hard place.&quot; The meaning of having to make a choice with  no good alternative would be twisted a bit, to choosing a bad option or being blocked (by a metaphorical dam).

Then, of course,  &quot;Damned if you do, dammed if you don&#039;t,&quot; might refer to making one into a mother, usually of cattle, horses, etc.  Or bombarded, covered, or gifted with dams.  I can just see being dammed by having fourteen female sheep and their newborn lambs inflicted on me.  Well, that might not be so bad.  Dam being derived from &quot;dame&quot;, or lady.

But then, dammed might refer to decametre - and simply mean that I was measured in ten meter units (approx. 0.183).

(Sorry, my Chamber dictionary happened to be handy.)

There is the obsolete Scots use, a draughtman.  Dams would be the game of draughts, damboard or dambrod would be the draughtboard.

Then there is the use of dam as a form of damn or damned.  Damme /dam&#039;(m)ee/ for damn me, or dammit /dam-(m)it/ for damn it. Or &quot;as near as dammit&quot;, very nearly.

Which would make dammed if you do and damned if you don&#039;t work, but still leave you hanging for saying that so-and-so is damning your progress.  Um, well, that might mean condemning your efforts to failure, instead of merely blocking your efforts.  Or should I look at a dam as condemning a river to puddle and pool?

Thanks, anyway, for explaining . . lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um &#8211; depending on your faith, sinners might be redeemed, sometimes.</p>
<p>And some feel that living this life on earth, is the living damnation we weren&#8217;t saved from.</p>
<p>Then again, there are those that feel sin is a made-up concept, and an anythingarian might well ignore the entire notion, as not being of any particular interest.</p>
<p>But I take your meaning, that damned is often intermingled with other curse words &#8211; curse in the Christian sense of impugning the state of another&#8217;s soul.  Curse in a more general sense, of course, is an emphatically felt desire for ill or harm to come to another.</p>
<p>Could an expanded title for this piece be, &#8220;Damned if you do, and dammed if you don&#8217;t?&#8221; &#8211; another, somewhat extended parody of the expression equating to &#8220;between a rock and a hard place.&#8221; The meaning of having to make a choice with  no good alternative would be twisted a bit, to choosing a bad option or being blocked (by a metaphorical dam).</p>
<p>Then, of course,  &#8220;Damned if you do, dammed if you don&#8217;t,&#8221; might refer to making one into a mother, usually of cattle, horses, etc.  Or bombarded, covered, or gifted with dams.  I can just see being dammed by having fourteen female sheep and their newborn lambs inflicted on me.  Well, that might not be so bad.  Dam being derived from &#8220;dame&#8221;, or lady.</p>
<p>But then, dammed might refer to decametre &#8211; and simply mean that I was measured in ten meter units (approx. 0.183).</p>
<p>(Sorry, my Chamber dictionary happened to be handy.)</p>
<p>There is the obsolete Scots use, a draughtman.  Dams would be the game of draughts, damboard or dambrod would be the draughtboard.</p>
<p>Then there is the use of dam as a form of damn or damned.  Damme /dam&#8217;(m)ee/ for damn me, or dammit /dam-(m)it/ for damn it. Or &#8220;as near as dammit&#8221;, very nearly.</p>
<p>Which would make dammed if you do and damned if you don&#8217;t work, but still leave you hanging for saying that so-and-so is damning your progress.  Um, well, that might mean condemning your efforts to failure, instead of merely blocking your efforts.  Or should I look at a dam as condemning a river to puddle and pool?</p>
<p>Thanks, anyway, for explaining . . lol!</p>
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		<title>By: Victor M.J. Ryden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor M.J. Ryden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you remember that it comes, I think, from damNation it helps to remember the N.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you remember that it comes, I think, from damNation it helps to remember the N.</p>
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