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	<title>Comments on: Beware of the Irregular Past Participle Forms</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;showed [older &#039;shew&#039;]/ shown (though ’showed’ is found)&lt;/i&gt;

According to the OED, &quot;shew&quot; is simply an archaic spelling variant of &quot;show&quot;: it&#039;s &quot;shew, shewed, shewn/shewed&quot; (not &quot;show, shew, shown&quot;)

I had a philosophy lecturer at university who always spelled it that way.  First time I saw it, I thought it was a mistake; the second or third time, that he was a lousy speller...after a while I looked it up, but it always annoyed me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>showed [older 'shew']/ shown (though ’showed’ is found)</i></p>
<p>According to the OED, &#8220;shew&#8221; is simply an archaic spelling variant of &#8220;show&#8221;: it&#8217;s &#8220;shew, shewed, shewn/shewed&#8221; (not &#8220;show, shew, shown&#8221;)</p>
<p>I had a philosophy lecturer at university who always spelled it that way.  First time I saw it, I thought it was a mistake; the second or third time, that he was a lousy speller&#8230;after a while I looked it up, but it always annoyed me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Precise Edit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Precise Edit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do K-12 schools still teach grammar? Based on 20K years working with, training, and supervising K-12 teachers, I think that a child&#039;s chance to receive formal, sustained grammar education is about 20%.

Regarding past participles: the main error I see is using the past participle without the auxiliary, e.g., &quot;I seen him,&quot; &quot;I been there,&quot; &quot;We swum at the pool,&quot; &quot;She begun a new project.&quot;

On the other hand, I rarely see this problem with people whose first language is other than English--because they have received formal English grammar instruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do K-12 schools still teach grammar? Based on 20K years working with, training, and supervising K-12 teachers, I think that a child&#8217;s chance to receive formal, sustained grammar education is about 20%.</p>
<p>Regarding past participles: the main error I see is using the past participle without the auxiliary, e.g., &#8220;I seen him,&#8221; &#8220;I been there,&#8221; &#8220;We swum at the pool,&#8221; &#8220;She begun a new project.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand, I rarely see this problem with people whose first language is other than English&#8211;because they have received formal English grammar instruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Hearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is right to alert users, especially (but not only!) those whose first language is not English, to the &#039;strong&#039;  verbs in our language.

Beyond that, however, it is worth pointing out that this group of verbs is unstable in English.

In the Bible and Shakespeare we find &#039;digged&#039; and &#039;catched&#039;. for instance. Both of these are still alive and well in a number of British dialects, along with &#039;teached&#039;. Then you Americans have invented a new one with &#039;dive/dove/dived&#039;! And in East Anglia here in England we  traditionally say &#039;snow/snew/snown&#039; to go with &#039;mow/mew/mown&#039; and &#039;show/shew/shown&#039;.

Note that the following verbs are mixed weak/strong in Standard English (i.e.they show both -ed/t forms and -en, or at least vowel change plus -d/t):

sow/sowed/sown; showed [older &#039;shew&#039;]/ shown (though &#039;showed&#039; is found); 
swell/swelled/swollen (my native dialect from East Anglia uses &#039;swoll/swollen&#039;)
catch/ caught/ caught; 
dig/ dug/ dug; 
teach/taught/taught; 
speed/sped/ sped (though &#039;the car speeded up&#039; is surely more usual? It is in Britain).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is right to alert users, especially (but not only!) those whose first language is not English, to the &#8217;strong&#8217;  verbs in our language.</p>
<p>Beyond that, however, it is worth pointing out that this group of verbs is unstable in English.</p>
<p>In the Bible and Shakespeare we find &#8216;digged&#8217; and &#8216;catched&#8217;. for instance. Both of these are still alive and well in a number of British dialects, along with &#8216;teached&#8217;. Then you Americans have invented a new one with &#8216;dive/dove/dived&#8217;! And in East Anglia here in England we  traditionally say &#8217;snow/snew/snown&#8217; to go with &#8216;mow/mew/mown&#8217; and &#8217;show/shew/shown&#8217;.</p>
<p>Note that the following verbs are mixed weak/strong in Standard English (i.e.they show both -ed/t forms and -en, or at least vowel change plus -d/t):</p>
<p>sow/sowed/sown; showed [older 'shew']/ shown (though &#8217;showed&#8217; is found);<br />
swell/swelled/swollen (my native dialect from East Anglia uses &#8217;swoll/swollen&#8217;)<br />
catch/ caught/ caught;<br />
dig/ dug/ dug;<br />
teach/taught/taught;<br />
speed/sped/ sped (though &#8216;the car speeded up&#8217; is surely more usual? It is in Britain).</p>
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		<title>By: Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was an English student in the Netherlands, these lists were drilled into us and we were tested regularly.

&quot;swim swam swum&quot;... and all the other 70+ examples of this type of irregular verb.

When I explain this to my children they look at me as if I were an alien.    There&#039;s a lot to be said for learning by rote as 30+ years on, I have not forgotten.

As an aside, we also had to learn German prepositions by rote... &quot;aus bei mit nach zeit von zu&quot; etc.    Again, I have found this invaluable.

Get the basics right and then you can be creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was an English student in the Netherlands, these lists were drilled into us and we were tested regularly.</p>
<p>&#8220;swim swam swum&#8221;&#8230; and all the other 70+ examples of this type of irregular verb.</p>
<p>When I explain this to my children they look at me as if I were an alien.    There&#8217;s a lot to be said for learning by rote as 30+ years on, I have not forgotten.</p>
<p>As an aside, we also had to learn German prepositions by rote&#8230; &#8220;aus bei mit nach zeit von zu&#8221; etc.    Again, I have found this invaluable.</p>
<p>Get the basics right and then you can be creative.</p>
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